Headshift.com another snaffu

by Roger Kondrat on October 21, 2006

Well have you downloaded the new IE7? How about the most recent Release Candidate of Firefox (FF)?

If you have and happend upon Headshift.com then you will have noticed the ‘design disaster’ as headshift has used a font that just does not play well with FF2.0 and although better but still shabby looking IE7 too.

Here is a screenshot of their website using FF2.0 RC3 as the rendering engine.
headshift_in_ff20
If you are of the mind that its unfair to judge them by an RC3 release, that is fine but considering FF is likely to be released in the next 10 days I imagine time is running out. Will they make it?

You know few people realise I like Headshift, I know more than a few of their employees and everyone is great. I would love to work there and that is actually why I go to their site so often. Unfortunately its that very reason that I usually find things to pick on them for, oh well, I can’t work everywhere I guess.

[tags]headshift,firefox,ie7,ff2,webdesign[/tags]

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Roger Kondrat 10.21.06 at 11:55 am

One thing before anyone comments. This image wasn’t distorted at all. Literally that is how their page looks on my 15″ wide screen sony vaio running XP with FF2.0 RC3.

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Roger Kondrat 10.21.06 at 12:55 pm

One thing before anyone comments. This image wasn't distorted at all. Literally that is how their page looks on my 15″ wide screen sony vaio running XP with FF2.0 RC3.

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Rory Kelleher 10.26.06 at 3:42 pm

Hi Roger

I’m a Senior Designer at Headshift.

This issue isn’t FF2 specific. It was brought to our attention a while back by someone using IE, so it doesn’t even seem to be browser specific. It certainly doesn’t look shabby on IE7 in fact our site has been tested on numerous browsers and both (Mac and PC) platforms. This font issue looks fine on IE5/5.5, IE6, IE7, FF1/1.5, FF2 all on the PC and also on Safari, FF1/1.5, FF2 on the Mac.

It appears to be an anti-aliasing problem which could be affecting certain fonts under a certain point size (a little like the way on a Mac you can smooth fonts under/over a certain size). I say this because the date, title and ‘Enquiry’ heading all display correctly but not the body font. Lucida is by default a system font but even so the css declaration instructs the browser to use Arial or failing that simply a sans-serif font for the body if it can’t find it. The problem that I have been having is that I simply can’t reproduce this issue. I have removed fonts from my fonts folder and tried it on numerous machines and reduced/increased the font size but I just can’t see what you can see.

Maybe it is worth noting that the other person who reported this problem was also using a laptop. Now I can’t remember what type of laptop (PC not Mac) it was but I wonder if there could be something with your screen settings and the way it renders particular fonts? Are there any other sites out there where a similar problem has occurred? Also you mention that you’re using Win XP. Again this is a long shot (and bearing in my mind I am not a techie) but what service pack are you using? Maybe if you’re not on Service Pack 2 (like we are) then this could have implications with certain font rendering?

It would be very useful if you could provide me with as much information as possible about your system and mail me at the address provided

Many thanks

Rory

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Rory Kelleher 10.26.06 at 4:42 pm

Hi Roger

I’m a Senior Designer at Headshift.

This issue isn’t FF2 specific. It was brought to our attention a while back by someone using IE, so it doesn’t even seem to be browser specific. It certainly doesn’t look shabby on IE7 in fact our site has been tested on numerous browsers and both (Mac and PC) platforms. This font issue looks fine on IE5/5.5, IE6, IE7, FF1/1.5, FF2 all on the PC and also on Safari, FF1/1.5, FF2 on the Mac.

It appears to be an anti-aliasing problem which could be affecting certain fonts under a certain point size (a little like the way on a Mac you can smooth fonts under/over a certain size). I say this because the date, title and ‘Enquiry’ heading all display correctly but not the body font. Lucida is by default a system font but even so the css declaration instructs the browser to use Arial or failing that simply a sans-serif font for the body if it can’t find it. The problem that I have been having is that I simply can’t reproduce this issue. I have removed fonts from my fonts folder and tried it on numerous machines and reduced/increased the font size but I just can’t see what you can see.

Maybe it is worth noting that the other person who reported this problem was also using a laptop. Now I can’t remember what type of laptop (PC not Mac) it was but I wonder if there could be something with your screen settings and the way it renders particular fonts? Are there any other sites out there where a similar problem has occurred? Also you mention that you’re using Win XP. Again this is a long shot (and bearing in my mind I am not a techie) but what service pack are you using? Maybe if you’re not on Service Pack 2 (like we are) then this could have implications with certain font rendering?

It would be very useful if you could provide me with as much information as possible about your system and mail me at the address provided

Many thanks

Rory

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